From: Ewald Arnold Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:51:11 +0000 (+0000) Subject: added ideas X-Git-Tag: v3.94.0~66^2~6 X-Git-Url: https://git.rmz.fi/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=17160d52befe228ede2302635ddfe075e96677f9;p=libqmvoc.git added ideas svn path=/trunk/kdeedu/kvoctrain/kvoctrain/docs/; revision=158629 --- diff --git a/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma.txt b/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..1403d35 --- /dev/null +++ b/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma.txt @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +From a-m.mahfouf@lineone.net Wed May 15 20:39:46 2002 +Return-Path: +Original-Recipient: rfc822;ewald-arnold@addcom.de +Received: from post.webmailer.de (192.67.198.78) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.0.045) + id 3C9A891800A14655 for a0132093@addcom.de; Wed, 15 May 2002 20:21:47 +0200 +Received: from mail.kde.org (max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.93]) + by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA20360 + for ; Wed, 15 May 2002 20:36:04 +0200 (MET DST) +Received: (qmail 1769 invoked by uid 0); 15 May 2002 18:36:03 -0000 +Resent-Date: 15 May 2002 18:36:03 -0000 +Resent-Message-ID: <20020515183603.1768.qmail@mail.kde.org> +Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; +Delivered-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +Received: (qmail 1723 invoked from network); 15 May 2002 18:35:37 -0000 +Received: from ppp-225-23-80.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (HELO laptop.localdomain) (80.225.23.80) + by max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP; 15 May 2002 18:35:37 -0000 +Received: from there (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) + by laptop.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id AE0E32415A + for ; Wed, 15 May 2002 19:39:46 +0100 (BST) +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="iso-8859-1" +From: Anne-Marie Mahfouf +To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +Subject: Re: [kde-edu-devel] Re: draft for kde lib +X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] +References: <200205110953.04749.ewald@ewald-arnold.de> <20020514154555.8F37F29A8C@laptop.localdomain> <200205151938.10890.ewald@ewald-arnold.de> +In-Reply-To: <200205151938.10890.ewald@ewald-arnold.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +Message-Id: <20020515183946.AE0E32415A@laptop.localdomain> +X-Spam-Rating: max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de 0/1000/N +Resent-Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Resent-From: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailing-List: +Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Errors-To: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +X-BeenThere: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 +Precedence: bulk +Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +List-Help: +List-Post: +List-Subscribe: , + +List-Id: For developer's discussion of KDE educational and entertainment software +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 19:39:46 +0100 +Status: R +X-Status: N + +On Wednesday 15 May 2002 6:38 pm, Ewald Arnold wrote: +> Hello, +> +> > I am willing to use the lib for KLatin and also for KTimes which will be +> +> fine :-) but it would be good to describe your needs a bit, since I don't +> know too much about the apps and their current and future needs. Abilities +> for sounds, graphics and other properties, support for different languages +> and how... +for KLatin: all the following you suggested before would be good. +libkeduvocio    : - loading, saving in xml and plugin support for +                      other file formats. +                     - API for accessing the words and properties +libkeduvocpart  : kpart to display the words. +                     - display table as in kvoctrain +                     - display flip cards as in flashkard +libkeduvocedit  : edit dialog to enter/modify the properties +libkeduvocquery : standard query and settings dialogs +libkeduvocsettings : standard settings dialogs +Names of the libs may vary of course. + +Sounds: when KDE has ogg support, sounds will not be a problem. I mean that +sound is just 2 lines code. The problems with sounds is to find people that +will record them. Recorded sounds should be in the corresponding i18n package +and in the app. +Like in KLatin, if it uses sound (associated with a flashkard for example) +the front of the kard might be "puella": latin sound included in the app +and the back of the kard will be girl, fille, etc.. included in each i18n +package. + +Support for different languages: the lib should allow i18n. I had 2 different +answers about translating data from i18n people. The rigorous approach is +that everything should go through the pot file and thus we need scripts to +get the data from xml files to a dummy cpp file with i18n() functions. +The less rigorous approach would allow translators to work on the xml files +like they do with docbook. This has to be defined with i18n. + +Pics: pic support for the front of the flashkard. A flashkard could be either +a word one or a pic one: pic of a girl->puella for KLatin. +That would allow reading help for children and learning new vocabulary. + +Hope that helps, + +annma + +PS: for KTimes, the app will be rewritten. Scott suggested the idea of +flashkard for multiplication tables, of course, it is very good (should have +thought of it myself ;). +How will the xml be done in that case? +Again, choice of flashkard with pics and without pics. For learning and +testing. +_______________________________________________ +kde-edu-devel mailing list +kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu-devel + diff --git a/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma2.txt b/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma2.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..493a320 --- /dev/null +++ b/parley/kvoctrain/docs/successor/unsorted/annma2.txt @@ -0,0 +1,436 @@ +From a-m.mahfouf@lineone.net Wed May 29 12:35:13 2002 +Return-Path: +Original-Recipient: rfc822;ewald-arnold@addcom.de +Received: from mailin.webmailer.de (192.67.198.78) by webmail.tiscali.de (6.0.045) + id 3C9A87F000D6E65E for a0132093@addcom.de; Wed, 29 May 2002 12:19:30 +0200 +Received: from mail.kde.org (max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.170.93]) + by mailin.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01862 + for ; Wed, 29 May 2002 12:33:03 +0200 (MET DST) +Received: (qmail 13838 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2002 10:33:03 -0000 +Resent-Date: 29 May 2002 10:33:03 -0000 +Resent-Message-ID: <20020529103303.13837.qmail@mail.kde.org> +Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; +Delivered-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +Received: (qmail 13620 invoked from network); 29 May 2002 10:30:49 -0000 +Received: from ppp-225-15-72.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (HELO laptop.localdomain) (80.225.15.72) + by max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP; 29 May 2002 10:30:49 -0000 +Received: from there (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) + by laptop.localdomain (Postfix) with SMTP id 821B02393F + for ; Wed, 29 May 2002 11:35:13 +0100 (BST) +From: Anne-Marie Mahfouf +To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; + boundary="------------Boundary-00=_P2CV52K261PITA41QU35" +Message-Id: <20020529103513.821B02393F@laptop.localdomain> +X-Spam-Rating: max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de 100/1000/N +Subject: [kde-edu-devel] XML and me..... +Resent-Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Resent-From: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailing-List: +Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Errors-To: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +X-BeenThere: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 +Precedence: bulk +Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +List-Help: +List-Post: +List-Subscribe: , + +List-Id: For developer's discussion of KDE educational and entertainment software +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:35:13 +0100 +Status: R +X-Status: N + + +--------------Boundary-00=_P2CV52K261PITA41QU35 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="iso-8859-15" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit + +Hi, + +As you know, I am working a bit on KLatin. I am rewriting it +(see the 2 screenies to get an idea) + +The latin and english words were stored in a text file, I will use FlashKard +xml. But I have some difficulties extracting the content from that xml +file.... I had a look at flashKard but there are 3 classes involved +(xmlparser, datawidget and card) and I cannot figure out how to make all that +work in KLatin... +I don't know where the data is after being extracted (in a QValueList?) nor +don't I understand why the XMLParser parses a list and not a file. I am new +in all that so maybe I am really naive on that one.... +Should I wait for the lib to be done or should I carry on? In that case, any +hint would be welcome. + +A wish: could FlashKard accept a filename as a parameter so it could open +directly with a file loaded? + +Wishes for the edulib: +- a class for the user to enter kvtml data (if it's only vocabulary data, +could it be with the tags only? This is easy to +understand and to hack manually) +- the flashKard quizz would be nice as well (where you enter the word in a +lineEdit) + +So in KLatin I would have 2 test modes: the actual one (1 word, 3 different +meanings, choose the correct one) and the FlashKard-like quizz. +Maybe a Memory game as well for fun (words pair: latin+your language) + +Thanks for any help/hint/flame/encouragement on that matter. Please tell me +if KLatin as I see it is better in GUI than the actual one. Ask me for the +code if you want it, I'll commit only when xml works and if people are happy +with the new interface. If not, it still improves my coding skills so there's +no bother ;) + +annma +--------------Boundary-00=_P2CV52K261PITA41QU35 +Content-Type: image/png; + name="klatin2.png" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 +Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="klatin2.png" + +iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAawAAAHCCAIAAAA8VGrRAAAgAElEQVR4nO3df4gc553n8e8sHagG +GWYGxUjNxniaTZCU7BJZ63DO3v0RsfuHZ6w/Yu8dRMF/SN49WEmrw8hiyc1y/+zq9g9LmChj/XPY +/sPEC3cbcWBNCzZn6bjdSAe+eMRdNCOS0C2CmRlsoW5WQ6bABXN/PKNSTf14+qmfXdPP+8UwVFc/ +9dRTPeqPnqrqfh4RALDYhIic++HWqJsBYDz95L1Xeks/GXUr4p0+e/rKj6401IOVOzVtJYDdrtfr +jboJOg3Nc52NWWmIPHJFRDxXPHf2K59U1C4AY2T53rJ54bkX5xavL5ZaPpjLvxNbqOPOdjaOyhci +j9ZFXHHXxHPF63d6Bzsr+813Vh8Hv/kKCyywUP2Cr3O9Y/hTTXnf9jXB4Olwx3tF3M2dfUARry/S +FHdTxBVvMPv7fdlt1nq398+8wAILLFS5sLz0wY2rF5fvLXeud96+/Lb+Tbp4fVEV8xdKKq96ghff +unjlR1fCIdhxZ8Vz5Qvnb/6tHP5q86X/uCzSFK9/cGbqZ5dm/vq9tSt/vyKeI15/9nk3uo/Oe38q +IrMn/iG0MrQGgCVCIdj/XNd/uvV/boVCraTywRCMnA57Ig1HPNdpNl1XRKbE23zhq/t//sOZS+/3 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+In-Reply-To: <200205301617.04861.bmlmessmer@web.de> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset="us-ascii" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +Content-Disposition: inline +Message-Id: <200205301626.11215.wheeler@kde.org> +X-Spam-Rating: max.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de 0/1000/N +Resent-Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Resent-From: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailing-List: +Sender: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +Errors-To: kde-edu-devel-admin@mail.kde.org +X-BeenThere: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 +Precedence: bulk +Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +X-Reply-To: kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +List-Help: +List-Post: +List-Subscribe: , + +List-Id: For developer's discussion of KDE educational and entertainment software +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:26:11 +0200 +Status: R +X-Status: N + +On Thursday 30 May 2002 04:17 pm, Matthias Messmer wrote: +> Do you mean things linke that? +>=20 +> +> A car cost 20000 Euro. The Price increased 10%. +> How much does it cost now? +> 22000 +> + +Yes, that's the type of thing that I'm looking for. If we can standardize = +a=20 +markup for things like that we at some point can do the processing in a/the= +=20 +library. Anyone else? What type of data needs to go in these things? =20 +(other than what you've mentioned Matthias)? This is more clear for=20 +vocabulary data, but trying to imagine a set of possibilities for may be a= +=20 +bit more difficult, so we need all of the input we can get. =20 + +Cheers! + +=2DScott +_______________________________________________ +kde-edu-devel mailing list +kde-edu-devel@mail.kde.org +http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu-devel + +